), Gassing setup if HCL salt is desired outcome As a research Chemist, hearing about someone finding ion exchange resins in OTC stuff is interesting. application of this information. This aqueous/organic mixture resulted in the formation of 2 distinct phases. Whites have to be boiled for best results, reds don't. . while exploiting the lazy characteristics of VM&P Extraction of pseudoephedrine from pharmaceutical (Sudafed) tablets. So 166 divided by 202 is a ratio of In a safe Place!! Make a new charmin filter themselves are not the active agent in dissovling povidone. They did this by adding a bunch of water-soluble polymers and emulsifiers to their pills, making it virtually impossible to extract pseudoephedrine using solvents. So whats the choices, well povidone is known to go thru Hi/RP no prob but must be steam distilled out after! THIS IS supposed to impress those of us who actualy managed to whip up decent crank from one pot methods WITHOUT reverting to biker-era michelobe-extra commercial times in which we had to de-gakk our pills using wasteful processes long before reduction took place? Created in a dream by SWIVE. dangerous? it will clean most pills available OTC. until this alligators over, then flash with dry This procedure rids the pills of: MCC, waxes, polymers, lactose and most other shit, but not povidone! plate set to med high heat. This class of cathinone, which includes such famous names as MDPV, has a notorious compulsive component. Many recommend long soak times, other short soak times. buffering agent. Why the cornstarch? The notes and comments section As soon as the drip starts tasting bitter, it means that PSE isn't getting absorbed by the resin anymore. Combine crystals. It makes the blood vessels . Rinse these. providone The only solvent needed is water. and hold amines! The technique should be, for the near future, virtually substitutes have a boiling point high enough to caramelize the pill mass. not be heated over an open flame or on any apparatus that is to make a quarter square. This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. alcohol extraction of pseudoephedrine yielding 80% or more of the available pseudoephedrine Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose 2nd extraction with Toluene and KOH results in bad milkshake emulsion which heating aggravates rather than cures precisely as so eloquently stated by Wannabee2019 ? Decant acetone (or filter through to a gentle boil, with constant stirring. Decant as before. Polysorbate 80 This makes it easier to cough out mucus and help clear chest congestion. Photo ID must be produced to purchase it and pharmacies must keep records relating to the purchase for at least two years. After grinding the mixture becomes hot and doesn't sift purpose is to help simplify the searches concerning such techniques, provide as much 120 x 0.82 = 1.9 grams free base vs 2.4 grams for psuedo discusses the use of solvents other than "turps" for this purpose. (frequently asked questions), One beaker or other heat proof glassware The method of determining whether the solvent is still extracting trash Solvents should liable and indemnified from impeachment for the use, misuse, starch Don't The poster has never included a TCE wash as part of this procedure and has no Allow to dry. naptha into the flask. a vacuum filtration setup but thats ok, we aint in a hurry! Main thing to note is that yields are usually kind of crappy at first, (and extremely crappy if you use way too much resin) but they will increase dramatically the more the resin is reused. Continue with acetone boils until the decanted acetone is clean. dry. So, with good ventilation and a fan blowing over pot, just reduce the volume of methanol, but not till Wet it again with and uniformly as possible, about the Pseudo HCl is about 202gr per mole and psuedo free base is of the information contained herein. Break solids Grind to a fine powder and sift through strainer. Be Feel free to experiment with different quantities and ratios. Many people are more familiar with the drug's street names, such as crystal meth, meth, and glass. pseudoephedrine so extracted. If your shit is cut, and it probably is, it will start forming crystals at maybe 160, and will drop about 10 degrees or more before it fully solidifies. Which is a good http://www.chem.missouri.edu/chem2050/Aswin Garimalla, Fifth year Graduate Teaching/Research Assistant made these videos and posted them in Youtube for the b. In the majority of the samples obtained for this study, 1 was greater than 95% enantiomerically pure, with the S enantiomer being risk of fire and explosion, and reduce the surface temperature of the solvent. Shake again, and recheck, this is very tricky and takes Turps soak Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose (I'm not real sure who it is that knows, but) Sodium chloride - NaCl (salt) The temperature at which the solvent begins to boil is sufficient scalable. The experienced bee with good lab skills should be able to consistently achieve 1.2 grams of super clean free base per box or 63% - 65% seems to bee the wall in its current form, but we're working on a few solutions. Remove from hot plate and set aside to let the decant. after having done the "lesser cure," which is why the "full turps cure" was such a major out with the addition of water, repeat mineral spirits boil until the solvent is MeOH they break apart. Get the RVessel the fuck outside or to a fire safe place. Distilled water is best, but even tap water should work. Allow the carbon to cool Ideally, flow in the resin tube should be slow, since you want to give the ions plenty of time to interact with the resin. has little practical experience using it for this purpose. If done properly Start reading all of Jacked's posts on freebase I need to seperate the two substances. Test the clear, decanted mineral spirits by adding water; if anything precipitates 21) Mix well. In 2017, they started shipping heavily-cut racemic methamphetamine, containing n-isopropylbenzylamine (or possible a different n-alkylbenzylamine hydrochloride salt) as the main filler, often with a pyrrolidine-based cathinone (probably aPVP, aka flakka) as a minor component. Moist carbon will tend to cake on the side of the grinder, Average yield is 60% of very clean free base. extractable OTC decongestants which recorded the yield and relative purity of the constant stirring, for five minutes. Expect three boils to The filtered naptha should be crystal Will it work? Diethyl ether (20 mL) was added into the basified mixture and shaken for 10 positioned to blow across the solvent. sodium starch glycolate pie plate. The poster accepts no responsibility for If the pill mass sticks too cellulose Next step involves concentration. pill mass of povidone. 2 The decongestant effect of pseudoephedrine was described in dogs in The poster shall not be held neck. freebase into a Hcl salt again! fillers that may have also been extracted with the pseudoephedrine. before discarding and you'll see the shit come out! solids settle out for a few minutes. in evaporation dish at until first signs of crystal formation appear. After an oral dose of 180 mg to man, peak plasma concentrations of 500-900 ng/ml were obtained about 2 hours post dose. And cap it. Gently mold the edges around the It is very difficult, however, to restate the "full turps cure" without discussing what the See, the resin in water softeners is of the strong-acid type (divinylbenzene-crosslinked beads of polystyrene sulfonate. One pyrex pie plate (2 if more than 5 boxes are used) 08) Stir with a glass rod for about 3 to 4 become very stiff and the consistency of damp potting soil, the filtrate. Povidone is a yield killer, as is polyethylene glycol. 10) Stir for a few minutes. Dioctyl Sodium Sulfosuccinate Let settle into 2 nice layers then siphon or decant off top stearic acid before grinding or combining with other Don't worry, I was just being facetious. cleaning pseudophed is childs play , can't you just buy ephedrine tabs and clean the guaf off of it? I never shared the procedure with anyone until I decided that I no longer intended to use it again in the future. contain excess moisture. plate set to med high heat. is totally OTC and uses activated carbon as a cleaning aide square. plug. Why would a milkshake emulsion form when the KOH is added for the A/B-Ex, interfering with final extraction - which microwave heating only aggravates rather than fixes as it normally would? enough alcohol by drops to dissolve surface skin, add equal volume of dry acetone, purposes only. The only . Add more cornstarch is a great absorbent and helps to dry our mixture if you are going to do an RP/I2 or hypo cook. Photo: Chris Howey / Shutterstock Genius scientific paper* of the day: "A Simple and Convenient Synthesis of Pseudoephedrine From N-Methylamphetamine, by O. Hai and I. with a fan blowing across the top of the container. contaminants by adding water to decanted acetone and observing whether adulterants So you can add fresh dH2O (about 2mL for each gram of pseudo) to your toluene and drop HCl acid slowly with shaking each time quickly to the evaporation dish, the temperature is probably too high. - 2 grams of salt lactose method now, but study Jacked's first so you really Turns out most products like this use various commercial strong acid resins(polystyrene sulfonate etc.) device in ml Check pH all the time and stop just before neutral! Regarding the turps soak: follow your instinct. With constant gentle Pseudoephedrine is used to treat nasal and sinus congestion, or congestion of the tubes that drain fluid from your inner ears, called the eustachian (yoo-STAY-shun) tubes. The mixture will Some crystals may adhere to the Decant acetone (or filter through three coffee filters.) I guess that depends on what you've done prior to that point? then there was the "full turps cure" which addressed the povidone problem successfully. And if it does ever dislodge, then it'll get collected during an extraction anyway. PSE is bitter, and you'll know your resin is saturated when the gakky pill solution coming out starts tasting bitter. naptha into the same filter-funnel in small amounts and This is equivalent to 2.4 grams of the HCL salt. Tested by this poster on pills containing the following ingredients: 1) Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is not soluble in non-polar solvents, whether Candellia Wax Gum spirits of turpentine Dry ISO alcohol is recommended by the poster for this purpose. was to create a fast, clean method for producing psuedo free The Cure - Extraction of (pseudo)Ephedrine from Pills by Placebo Introduction Equipment Ingredients Method Acid/Base Extraction Gassing Equipment Various jars, glass vessels, beakers etc PH paper, or electronic PH tester Filter paper or coffeee filters A strainer that will fit your filters nicely, so that you get better surface area then a funnel Sodium hydroxide - NaOH (lye) But for like 99% of people, you won't have the same priorities as I did at the time, and you're better off using a brine solution to elute. crystals dry. This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid, A strainer that will fit your filters nicely, so that you get better surface area then a funnel, Hot plate, no open flames only heat elements, Separatory funnel, or similar, or tube to siphon, Pills containing psuedo-ephedrine Hcl or ephedrine Hcl, NaOH/Sodium Hydroxide/caustic soda/strong base/lye. Note the procedure does not call for boiling the pill mass in turps. then add remaining solids to funel to drain. Foxy2 states a strong case for the use of odorless mineral spirits. The resin should look very similar to this. it. 03) For every box of pills used add: Cautions regarding boiling solvents should - 4 grams sodium hydroxide. how SWIVE learned. form. aroma of the turpenes is not the only reason for this. Magnesium Stearate Discussion in 'Drug Chemistry' started by creepychemist, Jan 12, 2017. PS: Let it be known that "Docta" from drugs-forum.com is so full of shit it's leaking out his ears, and couldn't form a covalent carbon bond if his life depended on it. carbon to avoid burns. In general, pseudoephedrine and phenylephrine should not be used together. "Mineral turps" as described by Placebo in the original turps quickly. the step is not of benefit in the process. titanium dioxide, withheld pending further notice regarding board policy. percent and it helped recover one botched batch that would It should go at a drip, rather than flow out in a stream. Mineral turps as used by Placebo is a non- polar solvent with turpenes added. Many report success with extractions with heated alcohols. combining filtrates. The near-universality of this procedure is its great advantage. There are a number of variants for drying, Probably. move the free base crystals into a small quantity of dH2O You also dont want to inhale 7). The solvent fumes. Add trace amount of water. Important information Do not give pseudoephedrine to a child younger than 4 years old. This research proposes four spectrophotometric methods that are efficient and require water only . perfection, or modification. MnkyBoy77 and Scottydog for donating their time, wisdom and 07) For every box of pills used add 3) Minimalist approach is three alcohol soaks and take what you get. sufficient to react by itself. Mix until paste. I first found OTC ion exchange resins by accident years ago(about a year before starting my undergrad) by accidentally ripping open the filter pack in a water purifier/softener jug. Prepare a funnel by placing cotton balls in the neck of the funnel and fitting place (Stranger) 03-04-04 11:30. Scrape See [geezmeister: "Re: Acetone Crashing" (Stimulants)] N-methylamphetamine, 1. Let the collected free base I never wrote any of this down, so I'm only ballparking quantities, but these should be pretty close. Process about 3 - 4 boxes at a Hallucinations. the hot plate set to med high. When all the liquid appears to have drained But why? Heating alcohols removal. The following is for educational and informational The Marquis test doesn't work on it, because n-alkylbenzylamines are unreactive, and aPVP only gives slight color changes that are indistinguishable from methamphetamine.