Thanks for a great thanks. Peter Biello: Worth mentioning if we're scaring anybody question a mysterious mountain lions lurking perhaps in someone's backyard. On a dirt road. WMUR uLocal: On this trail cam video, an unidentified feline is spotted. Peter Biello: This is the exchange on an PR. So one thing I'd point out is we've been talking about situations with no evidence a number of them come in with photographs and yet what they fit what they description of the animal they saw and by the way I got a picture of what I saw. Email exchange it an HP fraud org or give us a call 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. No that's a little bit outside the range. Thanks for your call. I live pretty much on the town line of Greenfield just a couple of miles down in the Greenfield. So so it is possible in Maine to still to to to have one but you have to be sort of professional handler as it were. They create these big latrines that are very obvious. Yes and you want to share what you learned. The Connecticut Mountain Lion is the best documented wild Mountain Lion in New England. Author of The last woman in the forest on Saturday July 13th at 7 p.m. at Warner town hall Warner historical dawg. Me Im willing to believe its possible that there are some out there. She was having a garden party on her back porch and everybody in the party saw this mountain lion across the field down below the porch. Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction 3,207 views Jul 31, 2019 78 Dislike Share Save New Hampshire Fish and Wildlife 634 subscribers During my thirty-one career at the New. OK. About Lions. The best documentation we have in New Hampshire suggests there hasnt been a mountain lion killed by a hunter in this state since 1885. And what was really remarkable about the whole thing was I was maybe a half mile down on all buildings. And they used to be this whole list of the different subspecies of mountain lion and it has since been reduced to just to the North American and the South American. Sandy Hodskins, owner of West Meadow Farm in Bradford, New Hampshire, took time from shoveling Wednesday to enjoy the snow with her horse, West Wind. So it's there was no question in my mind. Our guests today Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in. Thank you. So Pat you field a lot of calls about people seeing or reportedly seeing mountain lions. Peter Biello: Yeah some of what she was saying sounds like it would require getting pretty close or at least having a nice zoom lens right Sam like. Rick van de Poll: 80 90. Residents from Bedford to Berlin have been reporting sightings for years. So there's even debate about that very subject. Mountain lions don't usually travel more than 100 miles from where they are born. So for those reasons I don't believe the standards are too high the amount of game cameras out on the landscape to record images department alone through contracts had over 150 throughout the state biologists go through various deer yards throughout the year. I don't know if she still is. It doesn't happen as much anymore. The number 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 so promised a discussion about conspiracy theories. So. I was a Bobcat we saw it and I have a picture of it. Peter Biello: Well yeah. Mountain lions remain an enigmatic animal for residents of New Hampshire, with New Hampshire Fish and Game reporting three to five sightings per week. Are there Mountain Lions in NH? Pat what do you think the mystique of the mountain lion. Mountain lions live in the state. Peter Biello: Sam I wanted to ask you a little bit about that first and then turn to Patrick Tate efficient game. If you have them email exchange at an HP board or give us a call to tell us your story. The species that once inhabited the Northeast, known as the eastern mountain lion, is now extinct. So for our scientists to do the lumping and whatnot. They reported seeing the big tail and everything everything. It's good to talk to you. Someone's got to see one they're very secretive. Patrick Tate: So I just got to throw a little interesting side note in this. Are these big cats back?Subscribe to WMUR on YouTube now for more: http://bit.ly/1lOjX9CGet more Manchester news: http://wmur.comLike us: http://facebook.com. Your support makes this news available to everyone. Today on the exchange we discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. John. Well let's hear from from Sue Morse again science director for the organization keeping track. Have a photo. Yes. Information that weed family automotive dot com sunny for today high temperatures low to mid 80s clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s tomorrow sunny highs in the upper 80s. N.H.'s Fish and Game department says there's no proof mountain lions live in the state, yet residents from Bedford to Berlin have been reporting sightings for years. Or years or so. Patrick Tate: I've had hunters hang deer carcasses forbidding wildlife entries. Erler is a senior naturalist at the Squam Lakes Natural Science Center in Holderness. Not one picture of him online while the person meet with us. We send out DNA samples to the U.S. Forest Service Rocky Mountain Research Station. It's completely possible that it may have spent time in New Hampshire and went undetected but had it stayed in the area ultimately it would have been detected over time. Sam Evans-Brown: One in fact Helena silver in that sort of tome that Rick van de Poll read from at the beginning is she. Right. So we're fixated on natural but there's other possibilities. So I would put this in the category of sort of like shark attacks right. So the U.S. Forest Service Rocky Mountain Research Station has a database on mountain lion and they can identify. Nicholas Handy can be reached at 924-7172 ext. Rick van de Poll: Yes. I just saw the head and the tail that was leaving. Hunting is legal, but closely regulated by the state. So if you were to ask me has a mountain lion ever passed through New Hampshire and been spotted by somebody who wasnt able to get hard evidence? Id personally be willing to say "probably, yes.". Peter Biello: Thank you for sharing that. Deer Bear Moose Grey Wolf Coyote Foxes Fisher Mountain Lion NH Wildlife History. Peter Biello: But clearly you know you're saying like hoaxes people who claim to have seen a mountain lion but knowingly have not or are appropriating photos taken elsewhere of legit mountain lion say out West where they people acknowledge that they exist certainly knowingly or unknowingly in this case the person who sent it to me said hey a friend of mine sent me this photo and said he took it on his back porch also. Mountain lions ( Puma concolor) are one of the six native species of wild cats in North America. The great thing about pictures isn't the animal itself it's the background. I mean so what what is the practical change that it would bring to New Hampshire if any. The big cat has been extinct here since the mid-1800s. I saw that had this giant the bobcat had this giant sweeping which is John Bobcat don't have big sweeping tails. For me as a person who's handled many bobcats and looked at many pictures Bobcat the White chin Bobcat right off is what comes out to me and then the black the the roughs on our Bobcats we'll have sometimes have black fringes on them. I would just suggest that in my experience as a reporter covering this covering this issue for a few years at least at what point do we reach a certain critical mass for lack of a better term of accounts where I'm not to suggest that you guys aren't taking this possibility seriously. I'm sorry go ahead you're on the air. Rick van de Poll: Well the mountain lion of course has been sort of an enigma in the wildlife suite for years and years. The exchange is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio. I've seen him in the woods and that was not a bobcat but I was looking at. Sam Evans-Brown: So I just had two thoughts which is that we hear a lot of these stories and all of us here have heard these stories. Mike you're on the air. Join as a $8 per month sustainer and get our brand-new owl umbrella! And in fact in 2011 when it was announced that the eastern cougar was officially extinct the reason that announcement was made is because they said really that it never existed. Join as a $8 per month sustainer and get our brand-new owl umbrella! Listeners we'd love to hear some of your thoughts on this. Sunny today high temperatures low to mid 80s it'll be clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s for tomorrow sunshine with high temperatures mid to upper 80s. Almost all species disperse greater distances than females. Want to put this to to Patrick Tate who may have heard some some info or info from listeners like you about these these these cats. What gets confusing is when you have a large adult animal and a smaller juvenile animal of a different species you can now step start beginning talking about overlapping body weights and sizes. How to Report a Possible Mountain Lion Sighting. Mike thanks for your call. It's unfortunate that that kind of thing happens as often as it does. Fish and Game looked into the labs to have them confirm the information in the reports which the labs did not. If you missed part of today's program listen to the exchange. Thank you very much for listening. Give us a call if you have a question or comments or story about perhaps seeing a mountain lion here in New Hampshire. People have asked me about the genetics of eastern mountain lion. No I saw a camel. And that the Florida panther was more closely related to the eastern outline than the western mountain lion was. Caller: I do. Well within there. I just want to tell you a story that I read. Verifiable pictures recorded by the observing person or a trail camera. Over a period of a year and a half, this Mountain Lion left DNA evidence in at least four states. Peter Biello: We got an e-mail question from Robert in Epsom who asks are sightings or encounters with these big cats less dangerous here where they're passing through than out west where those same mountain lines might be establishing territory Rick. There have been several sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. So give us a call now. John you're on the air. Deer Bear Moose Wolves Fisher Mountain Lions. Now that to me seemed to indicate that they had done the secondary workup that in my opinion proved the existence of probably a disperse or possibly from South Dakota like the one in 2011. Absolutely. But along the lines of the conspiracy theories as you mentioned earlier there there was a bit of a sense on behalf of what I'll call the promo online community who felt that fishing gain maybe not even so much in a spoken policy but maybe sort of an unspoken policy did not want to find themselves in a situation where they had to spend money to create a management plan and so forth.
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